i have been doing a lot of research on the bible and its roots so to speak and its becoming clearer that the jews like other races took gods and stories from others and made them their own.
its also become clear that many of the books were written later then stated, like daniel probably written about a hundred years before christ and some of it maybe even after.
but what i don't get is the prophecies.
"After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air."
"We".....so Paul expected to sail away on the clouds in his lifetime...the most prolofic writer in the NT did that mistake! How on earth can a sensible person believe on word of that nonsence.........
.....meeting dead people in the clouds...that's even more........you know what!
from house to house preaching a dead message, to a life of continual partying.. http://www.smh.com.au/tv/movies/trishy-dishy-5000061.html.
about this episodeseven years ago, trish may have banged on your front door with a bible and an innocent smile - then life changed.
struggling with her faith, she abandoned the jehovah's witnesses after a breast cancer op and made a huge, life changing decision to embrace the fast lane and transform herself into australia's reigning party queen.
Good thing to scare the S''T out of that monk. :-)
Anyhow, maybe some of us are prone to seek the profound. I myself know that I have had that problem. But, nevertheless I am sure that most of us wuold be much more happier if we just skip such things. As long as we can afford it , sex and drugs and rock'n roll is the best therapy in life.
As XJWs I think we better stay away from anything spiritual. But, OK maybe that tantra thing can be good.
i really starting to see the problems with the bible and it being influenced by other cultures, religions and also the fact that many of the books or letter were written after the fact or so called prophecy.
so i am wondering would it work better to try to wake my children to ttatt about the jw cult or work on destroying the bible and its credibility?
which do you think would work better??
I would propose the other way. For a true JW it harder to accept TTATT than criticism of the bible. To be critical of the organisation is considered very apostateand activates a lot of alarm bells.
i was reading brant jones' experience (published on jwfacts.com).
i read both letters: the one he wrote to the gb and the one he recieved from them.
link: http://jwfacts.com/watchtower/experiences/brantjonesunresponse.pdf.
There was something in it for them. But what?
They pplied in autumn 1991, shortly after the collapse of the Soviet union. I don't think that's just coicidence.
i was just thinking about how humans being imperfect and satan's influence was the root of everything bad that anyone has ever done.
well i know that apparently everyone is vulnerable which got me thinking about what "bad" things people have done while they were a jw.
i'll start it off.
I had three girlfrieds...in 3 different congregations! :-)
At least I didn't visit a gay bar :-P
from house to house preaching a dead message, to a life of continual partying.. http://www.smh.com.au/tv/movies/trishy-dishy-5000061.html.
about this episodeseven years ago, trish may have banged on your front door with a bible and an innocent smile - then life changed.
struggling with her faith, she abandoned the jehovah's witnesses after a breast cancer op and made a huge, life changing decision to embrace the fast lane and transform herself into australia's reigning party queen.
OK, it's not possible to see this video clip in my country.
But yes, she is in to something important, probably she has understood it way better that we have. Since there is no God, the most important things in life is party....you know, sex and drugs and rock and roll.
I myself have had difficulties to adapting to that lifestyle, but I am in fact improving.... :-)
But yes, partying is hell more important than philosophy and keeping up to date with watchtower dogma.
ok. i don't believe that the watchtower(r) armageddon(tm) is anything but fantasy.. i do recall speculation about how the 'anointed(tm)' might all be dead before the big 'a' or that some will survive through it and help the r&f.
i heard brothers speculating that after the big 'a' the 'anointed(tm)' would be spirited away to heaven.. i wonder what they think will happen to the gb on, before or after the big 'a' now?.
Maybe they will rule from San Diego and Beth Sarim...the house was built for those resurrected princes
ok. i don't believe that the watchtower(r) armageddon(tm) is anything but fantasy.. i do recall speculation about how the 'anointed(tm)' might all be dead before the big 'a' or that some will survive through it and help the r&f.
i heard brothers speculating that after the big 'a' the 'anointed(tm)' would be spirited away to heaven.. i wonder what they think will happen to the gb on, before or after the big 'a' now?.
This is a speculation, but is it possible that after publishing this the society will put some non-annointed into higher positions in the org? I don't think we will see non annointedin the GB, but in powerful positions closely related to the GB. Some that are selected to guide the organisation during the big A.
ok. i don't believe that the watchtower(r) armageddon(tm) is anything but fantasy.. i do recall speculation about how the 'anointed(tm)' might all be dead before the big 'a' or that some will survive through it and help the r&f.
i heard brothers speculating that after the big 'a' the 'anointed(tm)' would be spirited away to heaven.. i wonder what they think will happen to the gb on, before or after the big 'a' now?.
Obey the Service departement after the "Rapture".
KAte, even JW apologists are human beings and want to communcate. They are not always loyal to the GB!
That's why it's effective being riendly and nice towards JW's at this board; it breaks their cognitive dissonance and the prjudice against "apostates".
